A coincidence of Trickett's or more?
Most days I review the "significant events" that have happened around that date on my ever growing family history data base! Today was the day to take a closer look at Oliver William Trickett....
Oliver will be know to some of our cousins as he married Shirley Prince in 1955 in North Sydney. Shirley was the daughter of Violet Manning Prince (nee Webb), grand-daughter of Chris Webb and great-granddaughter of William Webb Wagg and his wife Sarah Turner.
Here's a pedigree chart for Shirley from my tree on ancestry.com.au.
Sarah Webb (nee Turner's) sister, Jane, married John Trickett. We know that the Webb Wagg and Trickett families were close. Their children were baptised on the same day at St Thomas's North Sydney many times, Webb Waggs are informants on Trickett death registrations and vice versa and, as in this case, witnesses at marriages.
Here's the parish register from Christ Church Lavender Bay. It records the wedding of Henry Prince and Violet Manning Webb on 16 February 1918. Always great to see the signatures of the newly weds! The witnesses are Violet's sister, Mabel, and John Trickett. With a number of John Trickett's to chose from, my choice is John William Trickett (1878 to 1955) who was the youngest surviving son of John Trickett and Sarah Turner. He's Violet's 1st cousin 1x removed.
Here's a pedigree chart for John William Trickett - witness at the wedding - from my tree at ancestry.com.au.
With no obvious link between Oliver William Trickett and the family of John Trickett and Jane Turner, I pushed back in time.....
Oliver was the son of Arthur Aloysius (Joe) Trickett (1898 to 1959) and Amelia Winifred Huggett (1899 to 1973). Arthur was born in North Sydney and lived in Northbridge at the time he died. Still no obvious link...
Arthur's parents were Oliver Trickett (1847 to 1943) and Elizabeth A Collins. Oliver was born in Brindlinton, Yorkshire. When he was 9, he migrated to Melbourne with his parents and two sisters. His parents were Edward Trickett (1817 to 1882) and Henrtietta Young (1820 to 1907). Oliver was the only member of the family to move from Melbourne. Edward was a Baptist minister in England but a saddler at the time of his death.
Oliver was married to Elizabeth in 1899 and the registration place was St Leonards. He was a surveyor and lived in Crows Nest.
Here's a pedigree chart for Oliver William from my tree on ancestry.com.au.
In my preliminary search back in England, I can't find any record of Edward prior to his marriage to Henrietta in 1846 in Edinburgh. In the 1851 England Census, they were living in Suffolk and left England in 1857. It shows he was born about 1817 in Bromley, Yorkshire.
Edward's death registration records that his father's name is John. A few names are starting to sound familiar to me now from my research into Webb Wagg and Trickett connections...John and his brother Edward Trickett - the first Australian international champion in any sport!
Back to John Trickett who married Jane Turner - sister of Sarah Wagg (nee Turner). His father was George Trickett who was convicted of housebreaking in 1833 in Lincoln assizes and transported for life. His "native place" is recorded as Nottinghamshire. I've not been able to find any direct evidence of the details on trees on ancestry.com.au. They show George was born in 1808 in Collingham, England and his parents as George Trickett and Hannah Warren.
The timing had looked good until this point for Oliver's great-grandfather, Edward Trickett, and George Trickett to be closely related. Their recorded birth places were about 80kms apart but the parent were wrong....until I looked at George's death registration - father John and mother Mary A. How exciting...Edward's father was recorded as John on his death registration.
So are George Trickett and Edward Trickett related? Why are George's parents recorded as George and Hannah on all those trees but John and Mary A on his death registration? Where they really born 80kms apart? Did Oliver come to Sydney and settle on the Lower North Shore to be close to his Tickett family?
Did Oliver William Trickett and Shirley Prince realise the coincidence all those years later or did they know the relationship by marriage between the Webb Waggs and Tricketts?
Maybe genetic genealogy research will help answer some of these questions in time......
Here's a lovely photo of Oliver Trickett at Jenolan Caves shared on ancestry.com.au by Kim Carroll.
As always, if you have anything to add to his story please contact me.
Oliver will be know to some of our cousins as he married Shirley Prince in 1955 in North Sydney. Shirley was the daughter of Violet Manning Prince (nee Webb), grand-daughter of Chris Webb and great-granddaughter of William Webb Wagg and his wife Sarah Turner.
Here's a pedigree chart for Shirley from my tree on ancestry.com.au.
Here's the parish register from Christ Church Lavender Bay. It records the wedding of Henry Prince and Violet Manning Webb on 16 February 1918. Always great to see the signatures of the newly weds! The witnesses are Violet's sister, Mabel, and John Trickett. With a number of John Trickett's to chose from, my choice is John William Trickett (1878 to 1955) who was the youngest surviving son of John Trickett and Sarah Turner. He's Violet's 1st cousin 1x removed.
Here's a pedigree chart for John William Trickett - witness at the wedding - from my tree at ancestry.com.au.
With no obvious link between Oliver William Trickett and the family of John Trickett and Jane Turner, I pushed back in time.....
Oliver was the son of Arthur Aloysius (Joe) Trickett (1898 to 1959) and Amelia Winifred Huggett (1899 to 1973). Arthur was born in North Sydney and lived in Northbridge at the time he died. Still no obvious link...
Arthur's parents were Oliver Trickett (1847 to 1943) and Elizabeth A Collins. Oliver was born in Brindlinton, Yorkshire. When he was 9, he migrated to Melbourne with his parents and two sisters. His parents were Edward Trickett (1817 to 1882) and Henrtietta Young (1820 to 1907). Oliver was the only member of the family to move from Melbourne. Edward was a Baptist minister in England but a saddler at the time of his death.
Oliver was married to Elizabeth in 1899 and the registration place was St Leonards. He was a surveyor and lived in Crows Nest.
Here's a pedigree chart for Oliver William from my tree on ancestry.com.au.
In my preliminary search back in England, I can't find any record of Edward prior to his marriage to Henrietta in 1846 in Edinburgh. In the 1851 England Census, they were living in Suffolk and left England in 1857. It shows he was born about 1817 in Bromley, Yorkshire.
Edward's death registration records that his father's name is John. A few names are starting to sound familiar to me now from my research into Webb Wagg and Trickett connections...John and his brother Edward Trickett - the first Australian international champion in any sport!
Back to John Trickett who married Jane Turner - sister of Sarah Wagg (nee Turner). His father was George Trickett who was convicted of housebreaking in 1833 in Lincoln assizes and transported for life. His "native place" is recorded as Nottinghamshire. I've not been able to find any direct evidence of the details on trees on ancestry.com.au. They show George was born in 1808 in Collingham, England and his parents as George Trickett and Hannah Warren.
The timing had looked good until this point for Oliver's great-grandfather, Edward Trickett, and George Trickett to be closely related. Their recorded birth places were about 80kms apart but the parent were wrong....until I looked at George's death registration - father John and mother Mary A. How exciting...Edward's father was recorded as John on his death registration.
So are George Trickett and Edward Trickett related? Why are George's parents recorded as George and Hannah on all those trees but John and Mary A on his death registration? Where they really born 80kms apart? Did Oliver come to Sydney and settle on the Lower North Shore to be close to his Tickett family?
Did Oliver William Trickett and Shirley Prince realise the coincidence all those years later or did they know the relationship by marriage between the Webb Waggs and Tricketts?
Maybe genetic genealogy research will help answer some of these questions in time......
Here's a lovely photo of Oliver Trickett at Jenolan Caves shared on ancestry.com.au by Kim Carroll.
As always, if you have anything to add to his story please contact me.
